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To Build A Whirlpool

Whirlpower Group calls for action

To all Scientists, Engineers, and Whom it may concern:

From David Dennard and the Whirlpower Group:

This letter is being sent out to in an effort to have a whirlpool built and tested by science. After considerable research it has been shown that a whirlpool has never been built by man before. It is our opinion that one should be built, tested, and the results announced to the general public.

The research on this goes back several years on the internet and many, many, years by myself and several people on this list. I began by trying to find the whirlpools in the world after being inspired by a dream. This search has led to this theory and call for a whirlpool to be built in an unbiased, multiple, Scientific Method, theorists propose, scientists dispose, test. This information is given freely to all as a Whirlpower Declaration stating the posibility a whirlpool can be built in such a way that it will generate electricity, and as a bonus will actually clean water in the process!

Whirlpower is not a complicated but very simple approach to solving the pressing needs for clean energy and dealing with the problems caused by the pollution and danger of current energy sources. This is not a request for cash, just that a simple scientific experiment be performed, however those interested are invited to contact the Whirlpower Team and help support our efforts.

Whirlpower is based on the most common and simple pattern in nature. This pattern is seen in spiral of the galaxies, the movement of the solar system, the hurricane, river eddies, and even down to the microscopic. It is seen in the beauty of all living things, it is life, it is the essence.

Recent scientific discoveries all point to a new understanding of the world we live in that is very much different than was thought only a few years ago. Top astrophysicist Dr. Vera Rubin has stated, "scientists are going to have to give up their most precious beliefs" in the ABC News Transcript posted at my website. Whirlpower Theory has been on the crest of this new understanding and predicted many of the discoveries long before they were announced. Frame dragging (Stella), mysterious dark matter (Rubin), the "Cosmic Triangle" (Bachall and Perlmutter), and the slowing down of the speed of light (Hau), are all predicted by the relative density displacement basis spelled out in "The Pearl of Wisdom" relating to the fluid nature of space.

Although put down by the dogma of science for a long time it has weathered the storm and now shows great promise as more and more are finally starting to see the possibility.

All it takes is to build a whirlpool as described and test it in a scientific manner. We are asking any and all who may be interested to try it. Any scientific experiment has to be backed up to count. We have built several small models that show the action I have described, and we have other tests of principle models by people in our group. These appear to be the first whirlpools ever built by man. We are working on building our next whirlpool and want more to join the effort. All work on this has been done in public domain and we want this to be a public effort and available for all to use. Please help us if you can.

All the work on this can be seen at my website and on my list are some of the most knowledgeable experts in the field of vortex science. We welcome any to join with us and help bring the Whirlpower Dream into being.

Below are the members of the Whirlpower Team and their comments.

Thank you for your consideration,

David G. Dennard
The Phoenix
http://www.whirlpower.cc

I totally agree that the building of a large whirlpool for the study of Whirlpower is a great idea and I can't understand the lack of interest by many mainstream scientists. I guess it's just a bit too revolutionary (forgive the pun) for some. You don't have to have a string of qualifications and be a head of a University department to come up with a huge scientific breakthrough. The guy who thought up the theory of plate tectonics was laughed at by his seniors until he was proven right. So don't be too down hearted if the scientific community doesn't yet have your vision, David, you may well have the last laugh.

I hope you get the scientific support you deserve

Bill Bimson
Senior Experimental Officer
Magnetic Resonance and Image Analysis Research Centre
Univerity of Liverpool
L69 3BX
England

I came across David Dennard and his Whirlpower theory some time ago when I first got exposed to the ideas of Victor Schauberger. I have an active and avid interest in David's Whirlpower concepts and have taken up the challenge to further my understanding in this most intriguing of ideas.

I am not a scholar nor an academic but I am a realist and to that end I see lots of potential in some active scientific investigation into the Whirlpower theory. David is currently championing his water whirlpool based machine but I feel that the field, should it turn out to demonstrate truth, extends far some currently unanswered area of scientific investigations.

Neil Simmonds
nsimmonds@yahoo.com

I am a college A-level student, and for my Physics project I am studying vortex motion. This could also apply to vortices driven by gravity. I have looked at your site. You have my full support.

Richard Cheney
RichardCHENEY@leggott.ac.uk

...I do think your ideas must be tested scientifically... maybe in large scale if early tests shows promising results. I plan to test Whirlpower soon... I will share the results (good or bad) in all necessary details. I will also try to help any other person that tries to do the same. And as an ending I recomend any other scientist-, private- or buisness person or what ever you may be, to perform objective, scientific test with the Whirlpower ideas!

Curt Hallberg
Viktor Schauberger's Vortex World
http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-58759/index.html
http://www.newphys.se
qrt.o.tina@swipnet.se

As theories get more complex, the more the parameters of what will be significant are determined by existing theory...

...A theory will remain in an attractor basin until experimental data and an alternative theory tips the system over the edge of the basin and a new paradigm is acknowledged.

Both unexplainable experimental data and an alternative theory are necessary for a paradigm shift in the normal course of things. It also helps to build an undeniable apparatus that does what is supposedly impossible in the old theory.

An alternative theory plus an undeniable apparatus can do the same (this is after all what this site and many others try to do)

Summation: If you have lots of energy evenly distributed, you can afford to throw away a portion to get usable work. A mechanism would be a whirlpool effect.

Andre
aw49@pixie.co.za

New member to the group / not a scientist either / but saw Dennard writing to a vortex-l post about a year (plus) ago and taking a physics bashing. He is truely on to something most of those best minds could only say poo or huff when they couldn't see/feel or FIGURE it out.

What a marvalous thing the cosmos + whirl = WHIRLPOWER! THE ESSENCE! I'm a simple-minded male (48 todate) AND IT DOESN'T GET ANY SIMPLER THAN THIS!!

I've messed up my kitchen more times than my wife (Laura) would want to admit, just playing with this... THE POWER IS THERE!

...Remember it's not the vortex itself so much as the AREA UNDER the upper pool of spinning liquid.. this null / not so null / area is tapable once the process is STARTED up. One must be careful not to snuff or stiffle the vortex (or Power) itself... I think I can do THAT about 100 different ways (ha.haa) -

Well, just an intro of another lurker on a growing list, I'm all wet in my kitchen and loving it, (grins) this is simply - but not so simple WhirlPower!, but I can feel it works / Big time / the Bigger the better!!

steve (go everyone GO ) ekwall
ekwall2@diac.com

I am a Dutch physicist, and I have had the privilege of meeting David Dennard in person. Looking at the sketches and listening to David, from time to time my scientific thinking would emerge with a thought, questioning the amount of energy that can be extracted without stopping the vortex. But then my intuitive side would jump in, telling me that David really is on to something. And I truly believe that his Whirlpower system has potential. It surely deserves much more than simply dismissing it as impossible. Just think about the Wright-brothers when they were working on their first flying machine. They encountered the same skepticism as David, but now airplanes are a major means of transportation!

My scientific mind can not grasp yet why the Whirlpower would work, but my intuitive mind tells me that it will work. Although I am a physicist, I do not have the necessary background in thermodynamics and fluid behavior to be able to do some calculations, as to which dimensions would be optimal etc.

David is a dreamer, walking his spiritual path despite what other people say, who can use some help to actualize his dreams.

Edward Maesen
http://www.ledomedesprit.com/domeworld/whirlpower.html

Since Schauberger's work, David Dennard is one of the few that understand how nature works. Like all great discoveries in science, the ones that will stand for in future generations, the ones Béchamp made in Medicine, Schwaller in Egyptology, Wronski in Philosophy, Warrain and Charles Henry in Psychobiophysics, David Dennard's discovery is simple to catch, fertile in its consequences and comes from a single look on nature's pattern. One has to see it to understand it.

Whirlpower is not like any vortex, whirlpools are far larger than tall, like hurricanes. In the same way as hurricanes, whirlpools are centripete, have a spiral like dense center, where speed, matter and temperature shifts. This more dense center and its torrid chaotic flow on the inside also has a harmonic type flow, - the cosmic chord - on the outside.

David Dennard succeeded in showing us the key to all the unexplained last discoveries of Schauberger, by showing the source of whirpool / hurricane's power, its special form, the spiral form of nature and how this spiral form has two components. As he says it, "that of chaos and order, and how the sense of harmony sets up a gravitational density wave that drags a huge donut shaped current that contains the most basic energy from Nature, The God Energy of the Infinite Universe, from galaxies to hurricanes, to whirlpools".

The density wave (Phoenix, Tao of Eagle) is the sign of new mathematics and could - in a near future - be the flag of a united science, from biology to physics, if we realize the effectiveness of Whirlpower and bring David's dream into reality.

Cédric Mannu
cmannu@eternite.com

The support for David Dennard's Whirlpower theory has come a long way in the three years that I have been following it. Unfortunately it has met with much resistance as well. Still, I have yet to see any evidence that this theory would not work.

Whirlpower is about much more than just generating electricity from a huge whirlpool, it is about the force of gravity, which extends far beyond the surface of this planet. Before harnessing the force of gravity, one must understand the nature of gravity.

Whirlpower is likely to be the key that opens the doors to a new understanding of the fundamentals of science. It is high time that somebody builds a whirlpool and puts together some 3D data regarding the nature of the whirlpool. It will be this data that will show the scientists and researchers where to look for further clues about the nature of the universe, and the role gravity has in it.

I have known David for over three years and in support of Whirlpower I put together the website for his theory: http://www.whirlpower.cc

David Hubbard
dhubcal@i-cafe.net

In all places I look in nature I see it. The concept deserves serious R&D, I myself see many spinoffs that can come out of this research and do vote for serious research on David's whirlpool technology.

Years from now this concept will be taught in first grade and any scientist not understanding it today surely will not be remembered then!

To completely deny David Dennard's concept is to accept the earth is still flat!

Hector D Perez
ARK RESEARCH
arkresearch@hotmail.com

I am certainly no Engineer or Rocket Scientist, I am simply a novelist, a writer of fiction. My area of expertise is human nature and the study thereof. I, therefore, must always acquiesce to the experts and authorities, i.e., Einstein, Hawking, Tesla.

I do know one thing about David Denard, however. He is tenacious in his fervent belief that this "whirlpool theory" holds validity of the highest order. Ironically, this concept has been presented to him much in the same manner as Einstein's "theorems", purportedly gleaned in a Theta state.

At the advent of the 21st century, it would certainly be prudent for "modern" science to exercise a more flexible attitude and approach as we reach out to infinity. Only with open minds, will we - as a collective whole - (humanity on this tiny planet) be able to perhaps glimpse and perceive The raison d'être. I definitely encourage further in-depth exploration of THE WHIRLPOOL THEORY.

Carole Fox-Breeding
aka Marguerite McCall
Las Vegas, Nevada
Author--The Heiresses
Angel Trilogy Series

I have been hearing a lot about this whole Whirlpower Theory. Though I am only a gr12 science student, it seems to me that this concept could work. It just seems common sense actually and it surprises me that nobody has done any research on it until now. Today in Geography we were watching videos on tornados and hurricanes and I couldn't help thinking about your theory as I saw cows and houses fly past on the screen. Your theory has definetly given me a lot to think about! I hope that you get the support that you need from the rest of the scientific community.

Good luck!

~Marisa
M_Demers@telus.net

The Whirlpool Theory provides an interesting, and as yet untapped, pathway to understanding our own universe in greater detail. It is my hope that the Scientific Community, the information technology field in particular, will find the potential value of such experiments. The simplicity of this idea alone should cause "Science" to step back and reexamine where we are and where we are going. Because in the end, the universe operates as simply as possible, it is humanity that adds the complexity.

Russ Rogers
russr@planetcable.net
http://www.ducktank.net
International Who's Who of Information Technology

After going through the theory slowly, I saw that this is quite possible indeed, and if it has the rewards it is perceived to have, I don't know why the hell someone doesn't do something about it and try it out in practice to a high degree of accuracy. It could change a whole lot, and if it doesn't, we don't lose anything, but we gain a whole lot of knowledge.

But after reading the theory, I understood how it works...quite simple in concept, but has huge implications, and could give scientists a reason to go to work every morning to rethink their previous theories.

If it's a vote you want, you got it from me. But I really hope these votes help. I understand that the least we can do to help is vote, whilst you are trying other ways to get it implemented in practice.

If it helps us understand Hurricans, Tornadoes and our Milky Way itself, more clearly, it has all the more reason to be implemented in practice with the help of other people interested or able to do so. It's probably the fear of having to rewrite other theories, that keeps them from doing it ! :o/

Lawrence D' Costa
solarenigma@hotmail.com

I am an inquisitive thinker with a love of physics. I feel that the work that David Dennard and the many years of exhaustive time should be put to the test. I feel strongly that a large whirlpool should be constructed so that his theories on Whirlpower can be tested properly. The building of a whirlpool has my full backing and I hope that others step up to the plate and back him too. This undertaking will not be very expensive and could yield a great deal of useful information. Right or wrong, we all stand to benefit.

Al Tillis
North Carolina, USA

I am in agreement that a Whirlpower unit as you describe should be built. The processes involve 3 separate orthogonal movements - which for me strongly indicate the potential for tapping the universal energy fabric. Good wishes and success with your project.

Andrew King
andrew.king@dhuru.demon.co.uk

I am a 29 year old construction worker, and like David and others on this list I have no formal training in any of the many branches of science, but a few years ago I realized what I had always desired to do, understand our universe. Since then I have tried to catch up on what has already been discovered to be fact and ponder the questions that arise from every new discovery that is made as technology advances, and theorize along the way. At first I didn't think much about Whirlpower, but as a result of David's persistence, I finally gave in and listened. And after some crude experiments on my own I became enthralled with whirlpools.

The question I keep asking myself is why. Why does the vortex rotate? Why does it rotate in a certain direction? Why does a very small output from a container cause the entire contents to spin? Why does the vortex wobble? David's theory gives us a possible explanation, but without actual testing calculations there isn't any proof. Just as all other great thinkers in history saw what everyone else took for granted and asked "why", Galileo and the orbits of the planets, Newton and moving objects, Einstein and time, so David Dennard is showing us the whirlpool and compelling us to ask why, I hate to think that some very important clues to understanding our universe weren't studied because of the complacency of the scientific community, and the ones with the resources to study them.

John Hardin
DeSoto Missouri
E-mail: Budove58@juno.com
(636)337-7164

I support the Whirlpower Team to find a workable system that can be used on a large basis or, perhaps more important, for home use. Except for magnetics and a few other ideas there aren't many ideas on the board that are adaptable for home use. The fact that we are so dependent on oil and gas (and nuclear) is ridiculous. Light, magnets, WATER and gravity are just a few of the options we have. Self-sustaining whirlpower is a most promising way to go.

Dave
davem@tbcnet.com

I give my wholehearted support. I also want to go on your record that I believe that your "whirlpool" is the single generalized concept upon which reality is built (the "vortex" seen by the mystics throughout time), of which your backyard water-variety would then be a functional abstract. A fractal, if you will.

Best of luck getting power *and* clean water out of it.

Jhan Davis

Congratulations to Team Whirlpower for all the hard work and wonderful things that have been happening to forward new discoveries in this line of inquiry. I firmly believe that there should most certainly be more research and development time invested into whirlpower. More and more information, even on a daily basis, is coming to light and needs to be studied by those filled with a passion for knowledge and those wishing to submerge themselves in the mysteries of life and the universe. You've got my vote for things to move forward in this wonderful line of research. Keep up all the good work! I'll see about doing my part! As a matter of fact, I've been working with computer programming and graphic design for some time now (though I willingly admit that I'm not the best in my field) and if some of my talent can be used to help design some sort of graphic demonstration of the processes and theories being tested...

You can count on me to do what I can.

Chris Rabideau (Asmyth)
stirbei77@c...

You can count myself and Mangas in as well. I too don't understand how others don't get this. Seems pretty simple and natural to us. I am working on getting a high school project going over the summer. That way there's more money spread around evenly for trying to build models. Hang in there, it will happen!!

--Michelle : )
fiddlette@webtv.net
Golden, Colorado

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